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georgieh's avatar
georgieh
Experienced Cover User
10 months ago

Company tax entry

I just paid company tax for 2024, but it is set up in my file as an "Other Expense", with then obviously reduces my net profit for 2025.

 

What sort of account should company tax be so that it reflects NPAT for last year, and doesn't effect this year?

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  • DuncanS's avatar
    DuncanS
    Ultimate Partner
    8 months ago

    georgieh​ ChrisMc​ 

     

    The Journal for Income Tax Payable is

     

      Dr Income Tax Expense FY24   Other Expense

        Cr  Income Tax Payable FY24   Current Liability     Dated 30 June 2024

     

    Payment is posted to Income Tax Payable

     

    I do wish Accountants would use the Cloud and record their workings within the MYOB file.

     

    Duncan

  • Another account to use is a liability named 'company tax liability or tax liability' 
    This is used by the accountant to enter the tax of 2024 for you to pay off the liability.

  • georgieh's avatar
    georgieh
    Experienced Cover User
    10 months ago

    Thanks Chris. My accountant doesn't tend to do much within MYOB - just uses it to complete the formal financials and tax returns. 

    So if I were to do this myself, what would the entries be (and what about the dates, when the transactions occurs in the next financial year)?

  • Julie_A_C's avatar
    Julie_A_C
    Ultimate Cover User
    6 months ago

    Hi georgieh​ DuncanS​ ChrisMc​ 

     

    Not many Accountants will do this, some will send you the entry they want done, but that is very rare.  That is why you need someone who is an exceptional Bookkeeper or like me a qualified Accountant but didn't want to do the extra study to be a CPA or CA.  Being a single mother was hard enough with working part time.

     

    Their would be more than just the Income Tax to be entered in the end of year adjusting entries, there would also be depreciation, if employing staff they may also take out the superannuation expense not yet paid, some do some just do that via the income tax return adjustments.

     

    There also may be a reduction or increase in some of the expenses.  All of this can be worked by comparing MYOB's P&L and BS to the financials that an Acccountant gives their client at end of year once the Tax return lodged.

     

  • georgieh's avatar
    georgieh
    Experienced Cover User
    6 months ago

    Thanks DuncanS​. That was just what I needed. 

     

    Further to this, on my dashboard, MYOB is keeping a tally of GST collected and paid - way beyond anything I actually owe the tax office. This is because every time I enter my BAS, I enter the amount I am paying as an "Other Liability" called GST Collected, and the amount I am owed by the ATO as an "Other Liability" called GST Paid. So I just keep on increasing my liabilities with every payment. Clearly a mess. 

     

    If MYOB knows my GST collected and paid, how do I complete the entries in the BAS to actually update the liability as I make/receive ATO payments?

     

  • ChrisMc's avatar
    ChrisMc
    MYOB Staff
    6 months ago

    Hi Duncan
    Going forward if you enter the paid to the ATO for GST to the GST collected 1A and difference to GST paid 1B, this will clear the GST liability.
    However, you will need to clear the GST collected and paid to date by creating a general journal at June 30th to the clear the values and add GST values of your June BAS and 
    for example
    If GST collected at June 30th is $15000 and GST paid is ($5000)

    1st step, Create a general journal to clear
    DR GST Collected $15000
    CR GST paid $5000
    CR other liability $10000

    2nd step, 
    CR GST collected of value of 1A on the BAS
    DR GST paid 1B
    DR other liability different

    Then when you pay the BAS in July, clear the above values

    Thanks Chris

  • DuncanS's avatar
    DuncanS
    Ultimate Partner
    6 months ago

    ChrisMc​ 

     

    Chris,

     

    Accountants might use a Current Liability named Income Tax Payable.

     

    I prefer to have a separate Income Tax Payable for each FY.

     

    Duncan

     

  • DuncanS's avatar
    DuncanS
    Ultimate Partner
    6 months ago

    georgieh​ Julie_A_C​ ChrisMc​ 

     

    Georgie,

     

    The Journal for Income Tax Expense is dated 30 June of the FY.

     

    I recommend that Business Owners 'read and understand' the Company Tax Return before signing.

     

    The Company Tax Return has a Calculation Statement showing Taxable Income, Income Tax, PAYG - I and Income Tax Payable.

    All of the above should agree with MYOB.

     

    Duncan

  • DuncanS's avatar
    DuncanS
    Ultimate Partner
    6 months ago

    georgieh​ ChrisMc​ Julie_A_C​ 

     

    Georgie,

     

    In preparing a BAS, the GST Report for the Q is reconciled to the GST Collected and GST Paid Accounts on the Balance Sheet.

    At 30 June, I have a ledger called BAS April - June 20xx.

    The GST Collected and GST Paid Ledgers will be nil if GST on a Non-Cash basis, the PAYG Withholding ledger will be nil.

    The PAYG - I Ledger should agree with the Report from ATO Online.

     

    At 30 June, I prepare a BAS Reconciliation listing the GST Collected/GST Paid, W1 And W2 and PAYG-I for the year.  These amounts are reconciled to MYOB before lodging STP Finalisation and BAS Q4.

     

    Duncan