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PriyaSelvaraj
MYOB Staff
2 years ago

Update -Improved Security- 2FA changes

We have recently taken measures to deliver new security functionality to provide contextual and adaptive multi-factor authentication (MFA) controls. As a result, MFA now takes into consideration a range of factors including user’s location, device & behaviour patterns to determine the level of authentication required.

By analysing contextual information like time of day and user location, our MFA can identify if additional authentication measures are necessary. This approach aims to reduce user effort, whilst maintaining a high level of security.

However, we have reviewed concerns raised by our customers.

What we’ve heard:

  • I want to be prompted for a login more frequently (7 days is not sufficient, unless I have the option to select this frequency)
  • I want to understand MFA and login requirements.
  • I want to understand my role in securing sensitive information.

What we’re doing:

  • Reverting login frequency to 12 hours. Users will be prompted to login after 12 hours, as they were previously.
  • Users can select "Trust this device for 30 days", however may be prompted more frequently if additional authentication is required.
  • We recommend users log out at the end of every session, via the product menu.

What you need to do:

We will provide further updates on these changes for all customer via our channels and MYOB Community Forum.

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  • PF_1's avatar
    PF_1
    Experienced Cover User

    Thanks Gavin

    I didn't look in my textfile! I've fixed it now.  Thanks heaps for the solution :)

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We have recently taken measures to deliver new security functionality to provide contextual and adaptive multi-factor authentication (MFA) controls. As a result, MFA now takes into consideration a range of factors including user’s location, device & behaviour patterns to determine the level of authentication required.

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By analysing contextual information like time of day and user location, our MFA can identify if additional authentication measures are necessary. This approach aims to reduce user effort, whilst maintaining a high level of security.

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However, we have reviewed concerns raised by our customers.

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What we’ve heard:

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What we’re doing:

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What you need to do:

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We will provide further updates on these changes for all customer via our channels and MYOB Community Forum.

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We have recently taken measures to deliver new security functionality to provide contextual and adaptive multi-factor authentication (MFA) controls. As a result, MFA now takes into consideration a range of factors including user’s location, device & behaviour patterns to determine the level of authentication required.

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By analysing contextual information like time of day and user location, our MFA can identify if additional authentication measures are necessary. This approach aims to reduce user effort, whilst maintaining a high level of security.

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However, we have reviewed concerns raised by our customers.

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What we’ve heard:

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What we’re doing:

\n\n

What you need to do:

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We will provide further updates on these changes for all customer via our channels and MYOB Community Forum.

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PriyaSelvaraj 

 

As with other users we are floored that MYOB believe this is acceptable.    If I log out via the methods suggested then ANYONE can log in to the accounting file without a password.    This is clearly NOT improved security.    The 2FA option of 12 hours is OK, please re-instate the requirement for a password EVERYTIME we login.

 

This was one area of MYOB that was not broken - why \"fix\" it??    

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This update is not an improvement.   I would highly recommend that you revert to the previous iteration because this, in effect, provides no security on a regularly used device.  I am no security/cyber expert, but I am also not stupid.  This is not an acceptable solution.  

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Yeah, I'm rather upset about this. Not only on my behalf, but on behalf of all my clients, whose accounts are now vulnerable. I work both from the office and from home - at a minimum, the insta-login needs to only be available from one computer at a time, not all three of my office desktop, home desktop, and laptop, all at the same time.

 

This is not improved security, it is reduced security. Security for my clients' data should not be completely dependent on me having a dog to protect my computers when I'm not there.

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I am no security/cyber expert, but I am also not stupid.  This is not an acceptable solution.  

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Please see our improvement to your house security by taking your door down, we did this because the community requested it. The door periodically reappears after 12 hours. During which time, your fence has to do the job for you.

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I use a home pc for my bookwork and having to enter my email and password all the time is a pain. There is no option for me to \"Trust this device for 30 days\" or even an option to save email and password if I so desire.  Is something missing my end or is this just MYOB? Running MTOB Accountright

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PriyaSelvaraj & other moderators - please note that I have had to go to a formal complaints process to get a clear, or at least clearer, answer on this.  Why?   

 

MYOB state - 

 

Please be advised customers should not be choosing the ‘File’ menu then ‘Exit’ as this has never been the intended correct sign out process for AccountRight. This simply closes off the software but doesn’t log a user out, unlike the process from the 'Services' menu.

 

If we choose File & exit or simply select the \"x\" then there is NIL security when we log back in within 12 hours.   MYOB are not listening to users and do not intend to change that.   No problem with no 2FA within the 12 hours as a default however the default of no seucirty via the two common ways of exiting a program is a clear security risk, and one that we as users have no control over.    In the instructions here  MYOB helpfully tell us \"It’s good security practice to log out at the end of every session\"  however we need to drill down at the bottom of that article to find out that we need to use the Services menu to do that.    

 

If MYOB are a serious Accounting Software provider, how about being a little more serious about security?    Back to basics - every time a file is accessed it needs a password!

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With regards to:

Please be advised customers should not be choosing the ‘File’ menu then ‘Exit’ as this has never been the intended correct sign out process for AccountRight. This simply closes off the software but doesn’t log a user out, unlike the process from the 'Services' menu.

I do not understand why if signing off by exit or X has never been the intended method, why then is it that it always worked before to let us sign out and be secure. I have been using MYOB for years and have only now just found out about using the services menu to sign out.  Also it took a week or two of everyone complaining that someone from MYOB mentioned this method of siging out.

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Hey JillL1 ,

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Thanks for raising your concern and we do take the customer feedbacks seriously.

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We understand your concern about security risk, and I would like to assure that our team is actively working on to improve the experience.     

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I will personally ensure to pass on your feedback and  check whether our help article can be modified to clearly highlight the logout process.

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Regards

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Priya Selvaraj

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PriyaSelvaraj 

 

This is the first time i have even heard of \"loggin out\" through the Service tab.  I have worked on MYOB for so many years now and have never ever ever even been told that i need to do that.

 

In fact, if that is the case and we should not log out of MYOB (and backup each time) through the normal system either by X or \"File\" \"Exit\"....then why have we not had the security problem for years.

 

It has only been the last three months that the 2FA and the security \"email and password\" logging in has changed. And still, there is NO 2FA on log in no matter which way you sign out.

 

Cheryl Hutchinson

 

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Hi 

 

When this happened initially, I called your support line, who told me to untick the my.myob box .... now suddently we have two screens for log in.  And people who changed their passwords ..... wait for it .......... have to log in with their OLD and NEW passwords on the two different screens.  THIS IS REDICULOUS

 

'

We are your CUSTOMERS, you should listen to our requirements for security.  WE didn't ask to remove our security, MYOB did it.

 

Very simple, PUT IT BACK PLEASE!!!  I use XERO as well and honestly, none of this nonsence ever happens with them.  MYOB will lose even more customers to XERO if you continue with this and refuse to give us back our security.

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I am still having the issue where we can log in without password & 2FA. Please advise when the issue will be fixed?

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Hi MYOB,

 

Just another post regarding MYOB login concerns. Three of us from the same company, sitting in the same room,  have completely different MYOB AR login processes since the upgrade that threw MYOB security out of whack. One of us is not required to sign in at all - just open MYOB and they are in - zero security which is a concern. One of us has not had their process changed at all, just the password required - normal security which is great. One of us now has to enter their email address and password everytime we they open MYOB AR - excessive & not needed security which is annoying. 

 

What would Goldilocks do?

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Are there any updates on this fix?

 

There is a gaping security hole in your software that has been in place for three months, and despite my best attempts to contact the help desk, I am told to just keep waiting and monitor this post for updates, but you have not provided any updates.

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myobuser20 Try lodging a formal complaint via - feedback@myob.com.     Not likely to change the outcome as MYOB seem unconcerned about the security issues raised however it does mean they will respond.   A slight improvement on the non-response happening here.

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Hi Jill, two weeks of emailing and not even a single response from feedback@myob.com

Disappointing but sadly not surprising.

 

Their attitude to this issue is extremely perplexing.

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