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Legion
Trusted User
2 years ago
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Default fund - Member number previously used

Hi

 

We use NGS as a default fund.

 

When new employees are created and request the default fund we enter NEW in the super membership number which is the trigger for NGS to create a new superfund member.

 

However when we try to pay our super we get an error because this member number has been previously used.

 

Is there a way to force the payment?

 

Thanks

 

 

  • Here is my work around for the problem created by MYOB.

     

    Our default fund provides employers with a clearing house facility if they do not already have one.

    Historically we have used the MYOB clearing house.

    We can not process a contribution through MYOB for a new default fund member because the member number is not unique.

     

    Work around

    - Register for the default fund clearing house.

    - Process the bulk of the super through the MYOB clearing house as usual.

    - Create new members in the Fund Clearing House and process their super payments.

    - In MYOB go to Pay Liabilities found on the Payroll page. Select Superannuation as the Liability Type. Set the date range. You should see the super yet to be processed in MYOB. Select the super to be processed. Double check the amounts/employee. Select record.

     

     

8 Replies

  • Earl_HD's avatar
    Earl_HD
    MYOB Moderator
    2 years ago

    Hi Legion,

    Thanks for your detailed post. To assist you further, could you please reply with a screenshot of the error message? Your cooperation is greatly appreciated!

    Looking forward to your response.
    Regards,
    Earl

  • Legion's avatar
    Legion
    Trusted User
    2 years ago

    A message is displayed

     

    This super fund membership number is also used by {Employee Name}, Please enter a unique number for each employee.

     

    I've been in contact with the fund and like likely change our process.

     

    thanks

  • Earl_HD's avatar
    Earl_HD
    MYOB Moderator
    2 years ago

    Hi Legion,

    Thanks for your response. I suggest visiting this help page, as it contains the solution to this issue. Check super fund and employee details

     

    Feel free to post again, we're happy to help!


    If my response has answered your enquiry please click "Accept as Solution" to assist other users find this information.

    Regards,
    Earl

  • Legion's avatar
    Legion
    Trusted User
    2 years ago

    I've been to that page. 

     

    I don't see a solution to the problem as you claim. What is the sollution?

     

    MYOB seems to be saying ring your super fund. Well, NGS requires employers to write New. I've just been speaking with Hostplus and they require the employer to write Unknown for new members. So for both of these large industry funds they require the employer to use a initial member number that is not unique to trigger the set up on the Fund side.

     

    Do you see the problem? MYOB has decided that member numbers are unique within a fund and that is incorrect. For new members the member number is not unique.

     

    Why did MYOB impose this check/requirement?

  • Earl_HD's avatar
    Earl_HD
    MYOB Moderator
    2 years ago

    Hi Legion,

    I apologize for any inconvenience caused. Upon reviewing the error, it appears that it can be resolved by following these steps:

          *   Delete the pays made with the new employee card,

    • Remove the super information from the new card,
    • Reactivate the old employee card, and
    • Re-processes the pays with the old (now current) employee card.

    lIf my response has answered your enquiry please click "Accept as Solution" to assist other users find this information.

    Regards,
    Earl

  • Legion's avatar
    Legion
    Trusted User
    2 years ago

    That will not work because they are different employees.

    I don't think you understand the problem that MYOB has created.

     

    We have many employees. Employees are unique.

    Some of these employees will choose our default fund.

    The superfund asks that employers use the member number of "Unkown" for new default fund members.

    When Unknown is used the super fund sets up a new member.

    The member number is not unique as we use "Unknown" for each new default fund members.

    MYOB has enforced a rule that member numbers must be unique for a fund. This is incorrect. See line above.

    MYOB has created a problem because it has not understood the process.

     

  • Legion's avatar
    Legion
    Trusted User
    2 years ago

    Here is my work around for the problem created by MYOB.

     

    Our default fund provides employers with a clearing house facility if they do not already have one.

    Historically we have used the MYOB clearing house.

    We can not process a contribution through MYOB for a new default fund member because the member number is not unique.

     

    Work around

    - Register for the default fund clearing house.

    - Process the bulk of the super through the MYOB clearing house as usual.

    - Create new members in the Fund Clearing House and process their super payments.

    - In MYOB go to Pay Liabilities found on the Payroll page. Select Superannuation as the Liability Type. Set the date range. You should see the super yet to be processed in MYOB. Select the super to be processed. Double check the amounts/employee. Select record.

     

     

  • Doreen_P's avatar
    Doreen_P
    MYOB Moderator
    2 years ago

    Hi Legion,

     

    I appreciate the update and for sharing the workaround that worked on your end. This will help other Community Forum users with the same.

     

    Feel free to post again if you encounter issues in the future.

     

    Best regards,

    Doreen