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tonyr2's avatar
tonyr2
Experienced User
3 years ago

Forced to move online to use STP phase 2

Hi, All   I need to get more clarity on moving from STP to STP phase 2, I am currently using AccountRight ver 2022.4.0, but the company files are not online. I would like to move to STP phase 2 how...
  • gavin12345's avatar
    gavin12345
    3 years ago

    Hi tonyr2 

     

    MYOB aren't budging on this, insisting it is an ATO security requirement. If the file can't be online for any reason, you might need to think about either not using MYOB or using a 3rd party program like STP Creator for STP Reporting. This works with offline AR2022 files and allows you to complete STP Reporting.

     

    Regards

    Gavin

ChrisMYOB's avatar
ChrisMYOB
Former Staff
3 years ago

Hello tonyr2 

 

You'll complete the move to STP Phase 2 online (via a web browser) so you can integrate with the ATO's online services. This is only possible if your company file is online.

If your company file is offline (saved on your computer or a network server), you'll need to put your company file online to move to STP Phase 2.

We have obtained a deferral from the ATO which means you do have until the 1st January 2023 to move the file online and start reporting with STP Phase 2

  • DMCH's avatar
    DMCH
    Experienced User
    3 years ago

    I think it is absurd that we are being forced to move online, given the data breaches that have occured lately why would anyone want there company information online if they can avoid it.  I have several clients who are very much against it.  I have to advise them on the best option and to be honest I don't think going online is one of them.  Very disappointed in MYOB, a company I have supported for over 22 years.

    • AndrewC2340's avatar
      AndrewC2340
      Contributing Cover User
      2 years ago

      Myob have nearly driven me insane with the crazy things they force on users and the dumb ways their software tries to work.

      The tentacles that myob allow to be inserted into its and its users data by governments is frightening.

      The issue is that the government gets to benchmark every business and therefore can start taxing each business uniquely, maybe not now, but it opens that door. And Myob are able to pass information onto 3rd parties to also do similar things.

      Its about control and everyone will figure it out too late.

       

      • DMCH's avatar
        DMCH
        Experienced User
        2 years ago

        I agree it is all about control, I am sure many people have figured that out, but it creates huge challenges, particularly for small business.  The constant threat of non-compliance fines falls 99% of the time to the businesses (employers) who can least afford it.

        The alternatives (or work arounds as some may try to refer to them) are inadequate and mean additional time to complete the same task!  Fine if you are the bookkeeper getting paid for it but again the small business has to fork out more money.  I find the whole thing unpalletable at times.

  • PowerMyobBI's avatar
    PowerMyobBI
    Trusted Cover User
    3 years ago

    ChrisMYOB  gavin12345 

     

    So i have a number of terminal server files locally and just wanted to confirm....can we upgrade to 2022.5 and keep file offline until January 2023? or will this upgrade force the file online?

    • ChrisMYOB's avatar
      ChrisMYOB
      Former Staff
      3 years ago

      Upgrading the software won't put the file online, so you can upgrade to 2022.5 and keep your file offline until it is required.
      You have to go through the process of putting your file online for it to be in the cloud. 

      • PowerMyobBI's avatar
        PowerMyobBI
        Trusted Cover User
        3 years ago

        ChrisMYOB Thanks for your reply. Just with this update I have a couple more questions:

         

        1. Will users doing automatic updates on a terminal server cause issues as they dont normally have administrator rights to install updates? I'm just worried it will cause no end of issues if users start upgrading program files and data files stored on the server.

         

        2. Will files hosted in myobs cloud work in a terminal server environment?

         

        thanks again.

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