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carolineh
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Time off in Lieu - accruing annual leave, personal leave etc

I set up some employees  for Time of in Lieu following exactly the instructions by MYOB on line and it seems to work well.

 

I didn't exempt TOIL from accruing Holiday, sick and Long Service leave - mainly because I didn't think that part through too carefully (ie if it's overtime it probably shouldn't accrue).  I'm waiting to hear back from my client as to whether TOIL  accrues entitlements in their award.

 

What I did notice though, is that set up how it is, exactly as per the Wiki instructions, both earned and taken TOIL accrues annual leave, sick leave etc.  

 

I assumed this must be the correct way to to do it.

 

The problem is that if I put say 10 hours earned (accrued) into the payrun, it then accrues a % of entitlements which is fine but then if I pay (take) 10 hours, it accrues the % again so doubles up on the entitlements!

 

The staff all compare their pay  slips at this client and have complained that they are all accruing differently whic his true and I didn't notice.   They all have different deals for TOIL and this seems to be what is causing the problem but I don't know why or how to fix it!

 

 

  • Hi carolineh 

     

    When reviewing an entitlement category through Payroll>>Payroll Categories>>Entitlements and selecting the desired entitlement, the user has the option to select Exempt (top of the Entitlements Information window). This would allow the user to exempt a category from being included in the calculations. For example, if you are not requiring Holiday Pay to be included in that entitlements calculations you would navigate to the entitlement category, select the Exempt button and tick Holiday Pay.


    Note: The Exempt button will be applicable when the calculation basis is set to be Equals x Percentage of Gross Hours.

    If you are unsure whether a wage category should be included in the entitlement calculations we do recommend consulting Fair Work Australia or a similar organisation.

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  • Hi carolineh 

     

    When reviewing an entitlement category through Payroll>>Payroll Categories>>Entitlements and selecting the desired entitlement, the user has the option to select Exempt (top of the Entitlements Information window). This would allow the user to exempt a category from being included in the calculations. For example, if you are not requiring Holiday Pay to be included in that entitlements calculations you would navigate to the entitlement category, select the Exempt button and tick Holiday Pay.


    Note: The Exempt button will be applicable when the calculation basis is set to be Equals x Percentage of Gross Hours.

    If you are unsure whether a wage category should be included in the entitlement calculations we do recommend consulting Fair Work Australia or a similar organisation.

    • carolineh's avatar
      carolineh
      Trusted Cover User

      Hi!

       

      It's not overtime however we did get to the bottom of the problem.

       

      The trick is to decide which one you will accrue annual leave on (assuming the TOIL is not Overtime) and exempt the other.   In my client's case, it now doesn't accrue on earned but accrues only on taken.

       

      Previously neither were exempted so it accrued twice each time.

       

      Thank you for your input.

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I set up some employees  for Time of in Lieu following exactly the instructions by MYOB on line and it seems to work well.

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I didn't exempt TOIL from accruing Holiday, sick and Long Service leave - mainly because I didn't think that part through too carefully (ie if it's overtime it probably shouldn't accrue).  I'm waiting to hear back from my client as to whether TOIL  accrues entitlements in their award.

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What I did notice though, is that set up how it is, exactly as per the Wiki instructions, both earned and taken TOIL accrues annual leave, sick leave etc.  

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I assumed this must be the correct way to to do it.

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The problem is that if I put say 10 hours earned (accrued) into the payrun, it then accrues a % of entitlements which is fine but then if I pay (take) 10 hours, it accrues the % again so doubles up on the entitlements!

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The staff all compare their pay  slips at this client and have complained that they are all accruing differently whic his true and I didn't notice.   They all have different deals for TOIL and this seems to be what is causing the problem but I don't know why or how to fix it!

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I set up some employees  for Time of in Lieu following exactly the instructions by MYOB on line and it seems to work well.

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I didn't exempt TOIL from accruing Holiday, sick and Long Service leave - mainly because I didn't think that part through too carefully (ie if it's overtime it probably shouldn't accrue).  I'm waiting to hear back from my client as to whether TOIL  accrues entitlements in their award.

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What I did notice though, is that set up how it is, exactly as per the Wiki instructions, both earned and taken TOIL accrues annual leave, sick leave etc.  

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I assumed this must be the correct way to to do it.

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The problem is that if I put say 10 hours earned (accrued) into the payrun, it then accrues a % of entitlements which is fine but then if I pay (take) 10 hours, it accrues the % again so doubles up on the entitlements!

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The staff all compare their pay  slips at this client and have complained that they are all accruing differently whic his true and I didn't notice.   They all have different deals for TOIL and this seems to be what is causing the problem but I don't know why or how to fix it!

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Hi carolineh 

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When reviewing an entitlement category through Payroll>>Payroll Categories>>Entitlements and selecting the desired entitlement, the user has the option to select Exempt (top of the Entitlements Information window). This would allow the user to exempt a category from being included in the calculations. For example, if you are not requiring Holiday Pay to be included in that entitlements calculations you would navigate to the entitlement category, select the Exempt button and tick Holiday Pay.

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Note: The Exempt button will be applicable when the calculation basis is set to be Equals x Percentage of Gross Hours.

If you are unsure whether a wage category should be included in the entitlement calculations we do recommend consulting Fair Work Australia or a similar organisation.

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Hi  

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When reviewing an entitlement category through Payroll>>Payroll Categories>>Entitlements and selecting the desired entitlement, the user has the option to select Exempt (top of the Entitlements Information window). This would allow the user to exempt a category from being included in the calculations. For example, if you are not requiring Holiday Pay to be included in that entitlements calculations you would navigate to the entitlement category, select the Exempt button and tick Holiday Pay.

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Note: The Exempt button will be applicable when the calculation basis is set to be Equals x Percentage of Gross Hours.

If you are unsure whether a wage category should be included in the entitlement calculations we do recommend consulting Fair Work Australia or a similar organisation.

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Hi!

 

It's not overtime however we did get to the bottom of the problem.

 

The trick is to decide which one you will accrue annual leave on (assuming the TOIL is not Overtime) and exempt the other.   In my client's case, it now doesn't accrue on earned but accrues only on taken.

 

Previously neither were exempted so it accrued twice each time.

 

Thank you for your input.

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Hi!

 

It's not overtime however we did get to the bottom of the problem.

 

The trick is to decide which one you will accrue annual leave on (assuming the TOIL is not Overtime) and exempt the other.   In my client's case, it now doesn't accrue on earned but accrues only on taken.

 

Previously neither were exempted so it accrued twice each time.

 

Thank you for your input.

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